A unique and flavorful berry! This natural cross between blackberries and red raspberries produces long, tasty, dark red berries that are good for fresh eating, juicing, or making pies, jams and jellies. Thornless canes grow horizontally, so supports help keep fruit off the ground. Berries are sweetest when allowed to ripen on the bush. Heat-tolerant. Ripens in June. Self-pollinating. (Rubus loganobaccus)

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Bloom Color White
Fruit Color Red
Fruit Size Medium - Large
Pollination Self-Pollinating
Ripens/Harvest June
Shade/Sun Full Sun
Soil Composition Loamy
Soil Moisture Well Drained - Average Moistness
Soil pH Level 6.0 - 6.5
Taste Sweet/juicy
Texture Soft
Years to Bear 2 - 3
Zone Range 6 - 10

Zone Compatibility

This Variety's Zone Range 6 - 10
My Hardiness Zone ?
The USDA hardiness zones offer a guide to varieties that will grow well in certain climates. Each zone corresponds to the minimum winter temperatures experienced in a given area. Make sure that your hardiness zone lies within the zone compatability range of this variety before ordering.

Size & Spacing

Mature Size

When your plant matures, it will be approximately 4 - 6' tall x 12 - 24" wide.

Recommended Spacing

We recommend spacing these plants 12 - 24" apart to ensure room for growth.


This variety is self pollinating.

In many cases, you may still want to plant pollinating partners to increase the size of your crops, but with self-pollinating varieties doing so is optional. You'll get fruit with only one plant!

Tools & Supplies

Having the proper tools and supplies when growing your own can make the difference between a good harvest and a great harvest! Here's a list that our experts recommend for this variety.

Planting & Care

Learn all about how to grow hybrid berry plants in The Growing Guide. An entire section of our website dedicated to your growing success.

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Why did you choose this?
Stark Bro's Store
Thornless and mix between raspberry and blackberry.
Amy S on Apr 16, 2021
I enjoy loganberries. i hope this variety does well in my area
elva b on Apr 2, 2021
Thornless and mix between raspberry and blackberry.
Amy S on Apr 16, 2021
suitable for zone 10
kristi h on Apr 8, 2021
I enjoy loganberries. i hope this variety does well in my area
elva b on Apr 2, 2021
I ordered these last summer and they survived the winter and my brown thumb! I love growing some of my own food.
Kate H on Mar 27, 2021
i have one already
Russ S on Mar 20, 2021
Husband had them growing up so going to give them a try
PATRICIA M on Mar 5, 2021
Looks like a tasty berry that will do well in zone 9A. It is thornless.
Debbie G on Feb 14, 2021
My husband likes berries.
Stlevanna I on Feb 13, 2021
I have grown these thornless loganberries before, they are by far my favorite of all the berries. unfortunately I had to move and left those plants behind at my last location. I have regretted that for many years, looking forward to tasting them again!!!
Kurt B on Feb 11, 2021
Grew amazingly well in a semi shaded part of my house in Gilbert Arizona, producing an abundance of fruit. Going to plant new ones at my new house, in Gilbert Arizona, hoping to get same results.
Dane M on Feb 11, 2021
Haven't had good luck growing raspberries; decide to give this cross a try. Heres to hoping!!
Ronald M on Feb 8, 2021
Only berry I saw for my zone.
Paul D on Dec 19, 2020
I hope it will survive in San Bernardino
I???m trying to grow more fruits that have multiple uses at my home for my family.
Nancy J on Sep 7, 2020
I already have blackberries and raspberries i thought it will be good to try a combination of both ,sounds good
William P on Aug 30, 2020
Wanted to try something new.
Paige B on Aug 26, 2020
I've had thorned Loganberries. They were painful to pick, yet I loved the taste of these berries. They are especially delicious in jam. So, the solution was to find a thornless variety of the same berry.
Ella L on Jun 27, 2020
Have blackberries that thrive, raspberries die off, so this is the hybrid. I also chose the gallon size so I don't get stuck with nearly dead bare roots as I did with Guerney's.
PATRICK B on Jun 25, 2020
Love raspberries and blackberries, desired to try them
Ann H on Jun 6, 2020
because it will grow in my zone.
William R on Jun 2, 2020
Food sources for family & animals
ann s on May 27, 2020
Never tried loganberrys before and want to can???t wait !!!
shelley s on May 25, 2020
Thornless berry
Diane P on May 11, 2020
Thornless/different taste.
Jonathan O on May 11, 2020
We have several boysenberry and blueberry bushes that are prolific with spring berries. We were looking for a red berry to add to our yard. Thornless, after dealing with the boysenberry thorns, sounds fantastic during picking and pruning stage. We live in the coastal area of So Cal in a hot zone 10 and needed a hardier berry to survive the heat.
Matt K on May 7, 2020
Plant spacing, thornless, self-pollinating, good reviews.
Carol S on Mar 14, 2020
I'm growing in Buffalo, NY... WNY is known for it's loganberry flavored treats
Matt K on Feb 29, 2020
It was one of the few compatible with my zone of 9a.
Kristen E on Jan 4, 2020
I thought it was a raspberry plant. I am trying to cancel it.
Helene C on Dec 13, 2019
big berrys no thorns
Mary R on Apr 28, 2019
Wanted to try something different
JOHN G on Apr 25, 2019
I am a bit of an addict for variety so as I purchased the planned items, this one really wanted to come along too.
Kimberly R on Apr 12, 2019
I chose this berry for it's heat tolerance since I live in the desert.
Susan R on Mar 28, 2019
This Spring is the start of my thornless raspberries, thornless blackberries, and thornless loganberries. Yum!
James B on Mar 18, 2019
want to try it
marsha l on Mar 13, 2019
Thornless bush
Robert LeRoy A on Mar 4, 2019
Trying something we have not grown.
Craig P on Feb 9, 2019
Needed berries that can grow in southern Cali weather!
DANIEL L on Sep 21, 2018
Loganberries are legendary for their flavor. And for me, thornless is a must!
Susie C on Aug 14, 2018
My grandson???s name is Logan, and I always ???gobble up my little loganberry!??? How fun it will be for us to grow real ones!
Pat P on Mar 4, 2018
It grows in my zone and sounds like a great plant. Thornless makes a big difference.
Barbara S on Feb 25, 2017
We had these in my mothers berry patch back in the 60's. They are a remembered favorite.
Valerie A on Jan 5, 2017
I have a 3-year-old grandson named Logan. Gramma don't need no better reason!
Debra H on Dec 17, 2016
Resistant to powdery mildew, works for my climate
GLEN D on Oct 1, 2016
My grandaughter is named Logan
Carol O on May 18, 2016
Cannot find Loganberries anywhere this year and I wanted to add a few more to my row.
Elizabeth B on Apr 25, 2016
if my raspberries don't grow, this will be the next best thing!
kristine k on Apr 11, 2016
Raspberries do poorly here, I love them! Blackberries do well here, don't like them as much. This seems a good solution.
Marilyn B on Feb 29, 2016
suitable for zone 10
kristi h on Apr 8, 2021
I ordered these last summer and they survived the winter and my brown thumb! I love growing some of my own food.
Kate H on Mar 27, 2021
how do they handle late frosts? we have frost as late as may 1,
keith h on Jun 8, 2016
Do these spread like raspberries do. from under ground runners?
Gloria C on May 1, 2016
BEST ANSWER: No. They are propagated by allowing the end of a runner to contact the ground. There it will develop roots and can then be transplanted.
can u grown in containers?
sandra r on Apr 25, 2016
BEST ANSWER: Yes, I placed mine in a 1.5 cubic foot container and it has tripled its size in our current spring like conditions here in Las Vegas, but in summer I will move to where it gets morning sun and afternoon shade so the pot does not turn into an "oven" and cook the roots. Have very long laterals that will be fruiting canes next year. Happy Gardening!
can loganberries be planted near native black raspberries ?
P E on Oct 5, 2017
BEST ANSWER: Yes they can. Just like Boysenberries they are a cross between Blackberries
and Raspberries. I have mine planted next to Blackberries, Raspberries, and Boysenberries and all 4 types of berries are doing fine.
Just how "thornless" are these? Any problems with them reverting to thorny?
Barbara C on Jan 5, 2017
BEST ANSWER: Plants are completely thorn-less. All side shoots have also been thorn-less, no issues.
I received my gift of 3 Loganberry plants from my grandaughter, Logan, who I nicknamed Loganberry. They just arrived at my house in zone 9-A as bare root. Is it too early to plant them and if so, what do I do with them? Keep them wet?
Kathy H on Sep 25, 2018
BEST ANSWER: Hi, Kathy. What a cute story! You can plant them right away if it's not over 90 on a regular basis and no severe weather is coming your way. Keep them partly shaded in the afternoon for a few days to help them along. The fruit is truly wonderful.
Are these freestanding or do they need to be trellised?
Birdy on May 11, 2020
BEST ANSWER: They look like they would be better on a trellis. Mine are not and will grow down to the ground if I don???t figure out a way for them to grow up. Currently in a pot until I find a permanent location to plant them. I have had my plants a year.
how do you prune loganberry?
wezzie on Mar 17, 2018
BEST ANSWER: My old canes produce fruit in the spring and then die back. Then the new canes produce berries later in the summer. The difference between a new cane and an old one are very obvious. I also trim the tops off, some of the canes can be 10+ feet long and this is too big for my garden area.
My Loganberries are too tart to eat unlike loganberries in the past. On the vine they are Firm one day mush the next never a perfect time to pick. Most dried up for that reason. Is it the soil?Help!
Lynda W on Aug 6, 2018
BEST ANSWER: I pick my berries every two days and always pick them in the morning. I also grow blackberries with mine. I read somewhere that growing blackberries or raspberries with loganberries will help produce a larger bounty. When you pick every two days you can always catch them at the peak of ripeness, because when you go back out in two days time, the ones that were close will definitely be ripe then. Ripe loganberries are a deeper red-purple. My hubby has picked them too early before and thinks they are tart. If you wait an extra couple days and let them get darker they are sweeter. Look at pictures of loganberries online to see the color I am talking about. My loganberries seem to be the sweetest when they start to loose that gloss that berries have. If nothing else, when in doubt pick it. Almost anything you do with loganberry might need sugar added to it like pies or jams. Even juice.

I hope this helps some.
Should Loganberries be staked?
Charlotte R on Jan 9, 2021
BEST ANSWER: We appreciate you reaching out to us. It is suggested to Prepare a sturdy frame of wires against a wall or on posts.

If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to reach back out to us. Have a great day!
Do loganberries need to be staked?
Charlotte R on Jan 9, 2021
BEST ANSWER: We appreciate you reaching out to us. It is suggested to Prepare a sturdy frame of wires against a wall or on posts.

If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to reach back out to us. Have a great day!
what is eating my loganberry leaves? There is some bug eating the leaves but I don't see anything on the plants
Lynn B on Aug 21, 2020
BEST ANSWER: We appreciate you reaching out to us. We would be happy to take a look if you would like to send a picture to this way we can better advise of the issue.

If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to reach back out to us. Have a great day!
What is a cell pack vs a gallon pot?
GiaDub on May 11, 2020
BEST ANSWER: A Jumbo Cell Pack is a bigger version of the divided 6-packs in which you might have bought annuals or vegetable plants in at a garden center. These one-year-old plants are new starts - about 4-6" tall - and will grow rapidly during the next growing season.

The 1-gallon plant is in a #1 trade gallon pot (about 2/3 of a standard gallon) and is two years old, and has an an advanced root system. These plants are two years old and about a foot tall at shipping.
How long before these have berries?
Pbptrainer on Mar 28, 2019
BEST ANSWER: Most berry plants take 2-3 years to bear fruit. The gallon size will bear sooner because it's an older plant.
Since this is a cross with blackberries, is there an issue planting these near raspberries (or any other fruit for that matter)?
AbbyJ on May 7, 2018
BEST ANSWER: There is a difference between black raspberries and loganberries; the latter is species Rubus loganobaccus. Black raspberries are species Rubus occidentalis, They have very different features and growing habits and are neither compatible or a threat to the other.
Are there any pollinating partners with the loganberry?
Troy H on Nov 13, 2017
BEST ANSWER: Loganberries are a hexaploid hybrid. Loganberries are self-fertile and heavy-bearing, and there really is no pollinating partner that would benefit fruit production.
Does it have large or small seeds? Large seeds unpleasant in "smoothies".
MARCIA F on Feb 27, 2017
BEST ANSWER: The Thornless Loganberry has small seeds. Enjoy your smoothies!

Customer Reviews

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Hot climate survivor
After trying raspberries and blackberries in southern Arizona I finally found that Logan berries from Stark do quite well in temps over 110 degrees. One year after planting, the first year canes are yielding some good fruit and the new canes for next year are really coming on strong, much earlier in the season.
RHH in Ajo, AZ
May 18, 2016
over 6 years ago
Taste Great and Freeze Well
Simply a great tasting berry. I have 10 of the thornless plants from which I get pound and pounds of berries many of which I freeze and eat them all year long. Tastes more Raspberry than Blackberry ... also they are very high in vitamin C
February 4, 2017
over 6 years ago
So Far So Good
it's May in California and I am already enjoying these berries. I love the fact they are thornless, that gives me the courage to plant them in hard to prune areas. They do need fertilizing more than the Marionberries I ordered.
May 19, 2016
over 6 years ago
will they grow?
I purchased logan berries aprox. 3 growing seasons ago and had high hopes for success as they were supposed to grow well thru zone 10. I live in sebring, fl. zone 9, after the 3rd season began I gave up, not only did they not grow they never increased in size! I dug them up only to find the root ball had not grown in size.
August 16, 2016
over 6 years ago
Starting to grow and produce
First year nothing, but now starting to grow and produce. I quit buying from Starks, My order was not filled for other things I ordered I was given the run a round, cancelled my order and it took 4 months to get my money back.
May 8, 2018
over 4 years ago
Beautiful Vine
Beautiful Vine and it started putting on fruit the first year. The only problem I've had was doubles (one big berries with a tumor-like second growing off the side. I'd say 60% of this problem. Not sure exactly what's causing it. Tart berry even when "ripe"
May 23, 2017
over 5 years ago
Doing well.
Did not expect anything for the first season of them, they are turning into a large bush this year and should be putting off their first berries. Good plant.
June 23, 2017
over 4 years ago
Tiny plants grew to 8 ft in the first season then provided tons of berries the second season. You have to wait to pick them until they are soft and almost wine colored, not firm and red like a raspberry.
August 26, 2019
over 3 years ago
Response from Stark Bro's
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave this excellent review. WOW! We are so excited to learn that your plants took off and grew 8 feet in the first season. Your feedback on harvesting is greatly appreciated too. We really appreciate that you chose Stark Bro's to be your partner in growing your own fruit.
August 26, 2019
Tabitha R
No Fuss
Planted these and they took off. They need little attention! Will purchase more.
May 4, 2018
over 4 years ago
...too early to tell Difficult to rate this item
Beautiful plants arrived. Tough, very dry summer followed by a winter with little snow UNTIL late Spring, which took a toll on many plants & trees. The loganberries have survived but are very small. Hope that they grow. We have thornless blackberries from Miller/Stark & they are great!!
May 10, 2016
over 6 years ago